Curse

Chthon · Jan 15, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

What I really want is for that damn timer to come off of soul reaping now that spirits are finally out of the picture.
Aside from that, there's a few buffs I'd like to see.
But mostly, the smaller the skill balance, the better. Almost every time they do it, they get something so wrong that it completely outweighs whatever they did right in that update.

Turtle222 · Jan 15, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54

for god's sake, if you don't like ursan blessing...DONT use it! its that simple. Ursan gives people who don't want to have to play a ele/monk/warrior etc finally have the chance to win with their unwanted class. This skill was in response to the many many MANY problems and imho has fixed it.

I never use Ursan Blessing. But i'm content that other people can win the levels that i participate in without the use of your local trinity.

Aera Lure · Jan 15, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Turtle222

for god's sake, if you don't like ursan blessing...DONT use it! its that simple. Ursan gives people who don't want to have to play a ele/monk/warrior etc finally have the chance to win with their unwanted class. This skill was in response to the many many MANY problems and imho has fixed it.

I sincerely doubt Ursan was intended to remove class imbalance by removing the need for classes. Its what it now has come to do, but it cant possibly have been the intent.

super strokey · Jan 15, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Id like to see some rit spirit buffs and maybe some paragon ones too, prehaps something fun with MM's too.

I think it would be great if the BMP spells got worked in as well but i dont see that happening

English Warrior · Jan 15, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

I would mud wrestle my gran for a hero formation selection.
Death Blossom i think is a canditate for nerf its so over powered.
Mind Blast probably would be nerfed, insane e managment.

Racthoh · Jan 15, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

I'd like to see some PvE skills hit so we have to think again.

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Buff Dwarven Battle Stance.

It's not a proper skill update without it...

Heck, it may even be viable one day

Like Keystone Signet?

dont feel no pain · Jan 15, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

keystone signet is the center of sarcasm, i wonder if they would acauly do something about it XD

DarkNecrid · Jan 15, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

keystone signet is the center of sarcasm, i wonder if they would acauly do something about it XD

they did

it was massive overpowered and got reverted

CougarTheTall · Jan 16, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Seriously, STFU about Ursan. It's a PvE skill FFS and doesn't effect you at all if you choose not to allow an Ursan runner into your party. It gives professions that normally wouldn't be allowed into an elite mission party a chance to come along and do something other than "Stay away".

Personally, I find Ursan useless as is and do not run it, but after all, I run a profession that doesn't need ursan to get invited into a party or to be successful. Let the noobs and the people with unpopular professions have some fun FFS.

cellardweller · Jan 16, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

This is what I would like to see, but I'm not holding my breath because its becoming increasingly apparent that they don't care about PvE anymore.

Save yourselves: Change to "For the next 3-5 seconds your party gains 20-30 armour". Change effect to all allies.

TNTF: Reduce damage reduction to 10-20. Remove healing. Reduce energy costs to 5.

Brawling Headbutt: Reduce required Adrenaline to 4. Add a removes all adrenaline clause.

Aura of Holy Might: Fix bugs to make it act like the description

Signet of Corruption: Remove damage.

Pain Inverter: Fix bug to make it act like the description (Max 80 instead of Max80 per person affected).

Dwarven Stablility - Change to - for 10-20 seconds, your stances last 20-50% longer.

Great Dwarf Weapon - Allow self targetting. Remove Bonus damage. Change knockdown chance to 5-15%.

You move like a Dwarf - Target foe has only a 50% chance of being knocked down.

Raven Blessing - Skill totally reworked to remove the whole skillbar replacement concept. For 40-60 seconds you assume the avatar of the raven. While in this form, you are immune to knockdown have a 10-30% block chance, your attacks cause blind and bleeding and your skills recharge 30-50% faster. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds. The in mission blessing remains uneffected

Ursan Blessing - Skill totally reworked to remove the whole skillbar replacement concept. For 40-60 seconds you assume the avatar of the bear. While in this form, you gain 100hp, and your attacks do an additional 10-15 damage and have a 5-10% chance of knocking down your target. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds. The in mission blessing remains uneffected

Volfen Blessing - Skill totally reworked to remove the whole skillbar replacement concept. For 40-60 seconds you assume the avatar of the wolf. While in this form, you gain +4-6 health regeneration, and you move and attack 33% faster. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds. The in mission blessing remains uneffected

thunderai · Jan 16, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

^, if anything I would love to see the entire skill bar replacment thing removed from game. I fear it is the future though in GW2.

Sleeper Service · Jan 16, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

seven heroes.
unlinking of pve and pvp skills.
alliance roster.
title management.
hero management.
some solution to multiple character title grind.

but i fully expect some totally ridiculous pvp influenced skill nerfs and core game mechanic changes instead. hurrah hurrah lets all lock ourselves in a room together and scream.

Chicken Ftw · Jan 16, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16

^It's really sad that some people haven't realized why GW balances skills mostly based on PvP after ~2.5 years, and still feel the need to bitch about it.

On-topic, I like a lot of cellardweller's changes, especially to the blessings.

Sleeper Service · Jan 16, 2008, 03:21 AM // 03:21

^its really sad some people dont understand after 2 years + that pve needs balance too.
but carry on thinking that pulling levers and switching gears is the normal way to go round changing meta.

Chicken Ftw · Jan 16, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Did you even read my entire post? The word "mostly" mean anything to you? Higher priority, not that PvE should be left in the dust. Why would I have agreed with cellardweller if I didn't think PvE needed balance? Reading comprehension, etc.

JeniM · Jan 16, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

I think servering the link between skills would be great, so PvE doesn't get hit by PvP nerfs

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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service

seven heroes.
unlinking of pve and pvp skills.
alliance roster.
title management.
hero management.

Couldn't agree more, by title management do you mean some way of ordering/grouping so theres not just a huge list to look through to find the one you want?

Cherng Butter · Jan 16, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

Save yourselves: Change to "For the next 3-5 seconds your party gains 20-30 armour". Change effect to all allies.

Lol what? Isn't this worse than Watch Yourself! ?

cellardweller · Jan 16, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

Lol what? Isn't this worse than Watch Yourself! ?

WY only affects party members, has a recharge time and requires an investment in tactics.

Sleeper Service · Jan 16, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Did you even read my entire post? The word "mostly" mean anything to you? Higher priority, not that PvE should be left in the dust. Why would I have agreed with cellardweller if I didn't think PvE needed balance? Reading comprehension, etc.

here we go with the typical "higher priority" bs.

NO.

your post came across as the usual dig of pve players just not understanding why pvp needs to be constantly adjusted.

We DO (and thats another topic entirely) the thing is those changes do not mean the same thing to pve as to pvp, BALANCE does not mean the same thing in pve and pvp, that is the reason they should be SEPARATE.

YES we will "bitch" about it as long as the skills remain LINKED.
this "bitching" will take on many forms of blame but the only solution is to separate them.

and its EXACTLY what i said in my original comment.

reading comprehension right back at you.

@JeniM : yes, there are multiple threads detailing those improvements in the Sardelac sub-forum.

Master Knightfall · Jan 16, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Yes I agree Ursan Blessing needs a huge nerf to put mesmers and assassins and rangers back in their places. Rangers still need nerfing to their interupt skills longer recharge times. Sins need to be nerfed using Shadowform and Echo together longer recharge times and 120 second recharge. Mesmers don't need anymore buffing they got quite enough in the last major update.